Our opinion is very strong: pro-life. Why is it okay to murder an unborn baby but not okay to murder a grown person? This picture is of a baby at nine weeks; think about that while you "support abortion". I think a question we all need to consider is..aren't we glad our mothers chose life?
http://womensissues.about.com/od/reproductiverights/a/AbortionArgumen.htm
Hi Ladies, I talked with a couple of teachers and they felt I shouldn't let you post the picture because it is a school blog and might offend some parents. Sorry - please talk with me about this on Monday. Have a great weekend.
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Why is it okay to murder an unborn baby but not okay to murder a grown person?
ReplyDeleteIs murder unjustifiable... No.
If a someone kills someone in order to save themselves or others, they do so. Sometimes there are extenuating circumstances and people need to have the ability to choose to have abortions. Every two minutes in America a woman is raped and about 2% of those result in pregnancy. It is wrong to make these women go through with having a child. It brings up terrible memories of the man who raped her, and the rape in general. There are teenage pregnancies as well, which, to the majority, result in huge problems with them living their lives.
Many of these women would stop at nothing to get the child removed. To outlaw abortions is to remove the doctors who know how to do them properly. This opens up doors for dark alley doctors who risk the woman's health in the process of taking out the baby.
Most of the women who have abortions usually do have good reason to. Many women don't have the ability to sustain themselves let alone a child.
Adoption isn't the best choice either because many children that go through the adoption process just end up being shifted from foster home to foster home. I would know, I've been in one of them. Most caring parents usually make their own babies and care for them, there are not that many who need to adopt. So most go to foster homes. These foster homes are home to groups of kids. The foster parents, in my opinion are often in it just for the government money they get for caring for them.
All in all, I am pro-Choice in this agreement.
I thnk a mother should have a choice to. If they made the baby and they aren't born yet they should have the choice to go with abortion.
ReplyDeleteI agree with Landon and Chace. I believe that someone should have the choicce to pick whether or not they want to have an abortion. It is their choice and their baby, but I also believe that killing an innocent being is not right. Killing is bad even in wars. We already have enough murders and accidental deaths in the world, why should we kill even more. I see both sides and I believe that people should not be able to kill innocent babies.
ReplyDeletei think that choice is good, but i also depends on the situatation. If the mom is a total drugy, then would it be better to save it suffering now or give it to a good home and hope it has a good life.
ReplyDeleteIf the mother is an addict, often the child will be taken away by protective services. Then the child will either be put in the care of a family member or transfer from foster home to foster home. I don't seem to see what side you are aiming at Bobby. I think I misunderstood but when you said "would it be better to save it suffering" did that mean put it out of it's misery?
ReplyDeleteIm sorry, but i will have to disagree with you three. I believe that if a child belongs to a mother, inside that mother, then she should have the right to say whether or not she wants to or is able to take care of that child. It should not be anyone elses decision on what that mother does with that child. until the child comes out of the mother, the power is in the moms court. And when you three said "Why is it okay to murder an unborn baby but not okay to murder another human being", that really upset me. The child inside that mother would never feel a thing if when/if it was to be abortioned. So i completely disagree with the three of you. I am Pro-Choice. I am sorry to have taken up so much of your time, but i beleive that you should read more about abortion and consider the positions that a mother can be in before you choose pro-life or pro-choice.
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I'm not positive that this is the earliest, but I've read that after 3 weeks of conception babies develop their nervous system. When a doctor is putting acid into the mother's womb, I can't imagine that the baby cannot feel that or when they grab the babies head and crush it with a tong-like instrument. And to make another point, it's not the mother's baby. The mother may have made the decision to have sex and ended up getting pregnant or may have gotten raped, but it's not her choice whether or not the baby lives or dies. It's God's baby.
ReplyDeleteOkay, i see where your coming from, but answer me this question. Do you remember being in your mothers stomach?
ReplyDeletei am for pro life. i disagree with chase when he says that if a woman is raped it is ok for her to have an abortion. yes this child may bring up horrible memories ao what happened but by murdering the baby you are not erasing the memories of what happened. Regardless of if this child lives the memoies af what happened to that woman will always be there. also when you abort a baby after rape you are punishing if not kiling the baby for what the father did do it. this baby did not have a choice of how it was conceived. and if you are raped and have the child and still cant stand to keep the baby it can go to an adoption agency to have the chance to live.the bottom line i belive is there is no actaul choice in pro choice because the victim of an abortion has no say in wether they want to live .and yes a baby can feel what is happening to it during an abortion it feels as much pain as you and i would feel if acid was poured onto us. I also disagree with May Kadoody i dont remeber being in my mothers stomach no one does, but i remember yesterday and hopefully every baby will get a chance to have a life to remember too.
ReplyDeleteYou could have the abortion right after you found out u were pregnant. Then the baby isnt anywhere near developed and woouldnt feel a thing. And do u know how hard it would be to go threw nine months of being pregnant, the go threw excrushiating pain while giving birth to the child just to give it away. And most children that go to an adoption agency end up in foster care, where they are beatin and raped. Most foster familys do it for the money, not cause they feel bad for the child...
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But thats where I disagree. I am backing the girls on this one. I'd like to ask you a personal question. DO YOU LIKE LIFE? Honestly though would you have liked ot be killed before you had the chance to live? I, myself personally, like life. Also, you have to think that some foster parents are actually good. Now answer me that after thinking about it.
ReplyDeleteFoster parents aren't bad. But they aren't good. They are crowded daycare centers that mostly could care less as long as they get paid. I'm not saying all are, but I would have to say the majority.
ReplyDeleteAs to the part about liking life. You wouldn't like life quite as much if you lived in poverty. You wouldn't like it as much if you didn't have a real family. You wouldn't like life as much if you had to throw your life away to raise a child. You especially wouldn't like life very much if you had to go through labor because someone raped you! So many people commit suicide on a daily basis it is crazy. I guarantee you a rise in suicides and attempted suicides follows the banning of abortions. This gives you a question to ponder, how much lives are being won back with a Pro-Life choice in the first place.
I completely agree with chace!
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I'm going to come out and say it, I am Pro-choice. To tell you the truth I think that Taylor Flibbertigibbet :) KMooooooooon and Em Stach's comment is very offensive towards women who are having an abortion. Well first of all I would like to say if you do not give the choice to the mothers that it will not stop all of them. If the mother wants to have an abortion she will have one that is illegal. The abortion mortality rate is 0.2-1.2 per 100,000 abortions in countries where abortion is legal.
ReplyDeleteThe mortality rate in countries where abortion is penalized is 330 per 100,000. If they turn to illegal abortions both the baby and the mother will die. Second, over half of all women who have an abortion used a contraceptive method during the month they became pregnant. They also might have been raped. There are two ways mothers become pregnant when they don't intend to.
Sources- http://women.webmd.com/tc/abortion-reasons-women-choose-abortion, http://isla.igc.org/Features/Globalization/AbortionsEng.html
That's what I'm talking about,
The She Everyone's Talking About
Has anyone here ever heard of taking responsibility for your actions? The majority of abortions have nothing to do with rape. Most rapes are so violent that they do not result in pregnancy...those that do, of course are traumatic, but aborting the baby in no way minimizes that trauma....in fact, statistics show that the trauma is magnified, because now the woman has to deal with the guilt of killing an innocent child that had no part in the rape. Very very few, if any, women regret choosing life for their baby, but many deal for years with great depression and preoccupation with having had an abortion. When a child is conceived, it is no longer a simple matter of a woman deciding what is best for her. Like it or not, the child is a person too, with rights just like the rest of us. What that child does not have, however, is a voice. They are completely dependent on those of us who do, to protect them...to do the humane thing, and allow them to live. How can we even be having this discussion??? You believe that just so a woman doesn't have to be inconvenienced for nine months, she should be allowed to commit murder? What kind of civilization is this? Maybe that's just it, we're not that civilized!! Take the rape scenario out of the discussion and please tell me why a woman who didn't exercise her right to not have sex would think she should have the privilege to make a choice so final and devastating for another person?? As far as safety, who told any of you that it's safe to go to a legal abortion clinic? Many women die from botched abortions everyday in our so-called legitimate abortion clinics...with perforated organs....bleeding to death, etc. It's an ugly procedure no matter who does it. Come on people, wake up and grow up...it's time we learned that everyone has a choice, but those choices have, or at least should have consequences. Cheat on a test...fail. Rob a store...go to jail. Kill your neighbor...prison/death penalty. Kill your baby....support from a million other voices that want to do what they want, whatever they want, and answer to no one!
ReplyDeleteAmazing, simply amazing post. Really made one feel guilty about Pro-Choice. Considering all of that, I am going to make four counter points that I felt need to be brought up from your post.
ReplyDelete1. It is a very interesting point you brought up about the rape victims. It is good to have a second perspective and I wouldn't know all about it because I haven't went through it. Still going through pregnancy is a lot to handle. It would depend on their morals. In my opinion they should still be given the right to choose anyway.
2. "Women that don't exercise the right to not have sex" is a little pushy. Sex isn't a bad thing, and often pregnancy is an accident even with a person you actually love. Those pregnancies can occur at unwanted times and can cause a lot of problems for the couple or person who will have to care for the child. Not only would they have to care for it after the birth, but all the way through pregnancy.
3.Accidents happen all the time. Some people have unprotected sex and are able to manage not getting their partner pregnant. Then an accident happens and it's a problem. Some people are protected but possibly the protection isn't as great as first implied, and an accident happens.
4. Safety is a big issue and street doctors definitely don't do of goods as our professionals do. Adam posted this: "The abortion mortality rate is 0.2-1.2 per 100,000 abortions in countries where abortion is legal.The mortality rate in countries where abortion is penalized is 330 per 100,000." This difference in America as of 1996, would be 16 women dieing from abortions per year to 4521 women dieing from abortions per year.
Chase i am going to agrue your pint two. killing a human is not a civilized way to solve a problem, if a couple does get pregnant by accident if it is inconvient for them to have a baby then that couple needs to relize the importance of taking charge of there own actions , a human isnt soemthing that is a inconvience it is not a problem that can just be done away with or in this case killed of it is something we have to take responsiblity for regardless if they planned for it or not, that is called taking responsibility for your actions as kendall said, after the couple gives birth adaption is also another option if they still can not support there child.In point four the only solution for this final point would be for woman to stop having abortions completely wich is the only solution in my opinion.
ReplyDeleteThere are billions upon billions of children that could be made year after year. But they aren't made because it's usually not the right time for the parents to have one. All those hypothetical children were never given a chance to live either, because the time wasn't appropriate. So an accident happens then suddenly everyone says that this child wasn't given a chance to live. I guess it would depend on your view of where human life starts. I stand firm on this belief and I realize that you do as well. So there is no use fighting this point any further than this. I know that this is probably the biggest point made and since most people already have their mind set on one side or the other, that is probably why this topic is so controversial.
ReplyDeleteIt is taking responsibility for your actions, yes it would be. Sometimes we just have to face the facts and say that many people aren't that responsible. To put it out there, the people who have accidental pregnancies are usually the ones who aren't that responsible. By holding them in that situation you are endangering them and the child they have to care for.
Adoption is not that great an option at all. There are many good parents out there who want to adopt but there are way more kids than parents. So most kids put up for adoption don't end up in the best positions possible.
There is nothing you can stop people from doing. You ban a word, people are going to say it. You make murder illegal, people are going to do it. Considerably less people will do it but many still will try. In a perfect world perhaps, but we are far from that, so the best way to handle this now would be Pro-Choice.
To add onto what Chace said, I too honestly wish that children were always given the opportunity to live and be born into the best of circumstances; however, as he said, our world is not perfect. We live in a world filled with slavery, diseases, war, pain, prejudice, murder, and countless other horrors. Despite all of this, there is good in the world too; there are parents who care for the children of others, people who devote their time to helping others, charities, people with pure hearts, and things that might be considered earthly miracles. I'm guess what I'm trying to say is this: abortion should be avoided whenever there is even the tiniest sliver of hope. In my opinion, if a woman becomes pregnant with no desire to keep her child, it is her and the father's responsibility to do everything in their power to protect their offspring. They should see if people are looking to adopt, reconsider caring for their own child, and do whatever else may be possible. It is essential that they do everything they absolutely can to save the life of the developing human they created. . . but, we do live in reality. As sad as it is to say, sometimes there is simply no way to avoid abortion. Some people will go to "back alley" doctors and other resources if they are restricted from legal abortion. Then, there are cases of rape, failures in birth control, and other situations where a couple is not necessarily being careless to consider. Therefore, I think that banning abortion totally would save a lot of lives, but it might endanger even more. Furthermore, I find it difficult to fully condemn the actions of others when I have never lived through what they have. Who is to say that it is my right to say what is civilized, fair, or right? One of my greatest mantras in life has always been that everything is circumstantial, and I believe that that applies to this debate as well. I believe that all lives have value, but I think that all sides of a situation must be considered. For example, please think about the following hypothetical, but possible, story. A woman and her husband are overjoyed when they discover that they have finally succeeded in conceiving a baby. Four months into the pregnancy, the woman is informed by her doctor that she will probably die if she decides to carry the baby for as long as is necessary for it to reach full development, but the child will most likely live if she does so. Now, who is to say if the child or the mother should be given the chance to live? I don't believe that there is really a correct answer to that question, and that is truly my opinion about this whole issue. I don't think that abortions should be completely eliminated because of many reasons, but I don't think that they should be done when a better option is available or more reasonable. It is my hope that people will make their choices based on what will benefit ALL of the lives in consideration. I have very mixed feeling about this issue, but this is what I believe. As I said before, every situation is different, and the variables are what makes the line so blurry.
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ReplyDeleteI think it should be pro-life. The people who got pregneant shouldn't have done it if they weren't ready and if it wasn't there fault it's still not their choice to decide if it lives or dies. It's God's. There are better options than just ending an innocent person's life. There are many familys out there, young or old that can't have a baby and they want one. ADOPTION. If you don't want your baby just give it away, if you won't be happy with it chances are other people would. Life is very unfair and sometimes you have to make sacrafices for other people. Don't make the baby pay for you not wanting it, even if it wasn't your fault give it a chance!
ReplyDeleteDefinately pro-life. I don't see how someone could get away with killing a baby. It's so wrong. Like Chace said before, how can someone be accused of murder, but not for killing a baby? I just don't get.
ReplyDeleteI never said that. I am Pro-Choice in this one Cory.
ReplyDeleteThought you did. Sorry.
ReplyDeleteI think pro-life. You are responsible for having that child even if you didn't mean to get pregnant. And if you aren't ready to take care of that child, there is always adoption. There are plenty of people who would love to have your baby if you don't want yours. I don't understand how someone could kill an innocent baby and live with the guilt.
ReplyDeleteGO LIV, CORY, AND KRISINA! i agree with you threeeeeeeeeeeeee!
ReplyDelete16 and Pregnant is a great example for this.. Sort of. It shows you what girls who don't want to have the baby do. Catelynn ended up giving it up for adoption rather than killing the baby because she actually cared what happened to it because it was HER fault. That sounds bad but now she is so happy with her choice because her baby is alive and in a better place! Go Catelynn!
ReplyDeletePro-life definitely! How could someone kill a baby that they are responsible for having? If they do,that is just sad! :(
ReplyDeleteIt is really their choice...
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ReplyDeleteI choose Pro-Life! How could you kill an innocent baby? It's your fault if you end up pregnant, so take responsibility for your actions. Besides, many people would love to have your baby. Don't kill it, but if you don't think you can handle it, give it up for adoption. Let other people enjoy the joys of children.
ReplyDeletewe live in a country that you are given choices......a lot more than in other countries.....we should be able to pick how we want to live our life how we want to.....this is a country of freedom and choices
ReplyDeletePRO-LIFE. PRO-PRO-PRO-LIFE! Gooooooooooooooooooooo LIFE! Noooootttt choice. CHEEER IT UP FOR LIFE. NOT CHOICE. PRO LIFE. DO WORK. GET IT PRO-LIFE.
ReplyDeletei think that it is wrong because if its not right to kill an living person but its ok to kill a unborn one? in certain situations it may be absolutly nessisary but adoption is a so much better option
ReplyDeleteBobby your just wrong. How can you think killing a baby is ok?
ReplyDeleteI'm pro choice because it is not against the law and I think that women should have a choice.
ReplyDeleteif you take away someones right to chose how to live your life...than how good of a country is it......its your right to CHOOSE
ReplyDeletePersonally i'm pro life. i don't like the fact that the child is killed. But then again it is the mothers body so it kind of goes to the choice of the mother. The sad thing with abortion though is that the baby never gets a chance to makes its mark on the world. I truly feel sorry for the people out there that can't see that.
ReplyDeletebut everybody should get a choice.....i dont think abortion is RIGHT...but taking away the right to choose is WRONG
ReplyDeleteBut Bobby, how could u live with killing a baby? It turns u into a monster that killed something that never did anything thats wrong. If u don't want ur baby just givee it up for adoption.
ReplyDeletei didnt say it was Right...i just said taking away the choice is Wrong
ReplyDeleteBut still u should give the baby up for adoption instead of killing it.
ReplyDeletei know....im just saying we cant take peoples right away....like the right to choose
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